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MoodIndigo1 |
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WHAAA---- I finally drag my lazy ass over here and you are CLOSING!!!
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Laird Chai |
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Robert, sear wasn't trolling, he's been the most up-front contributor to this thread, save perhaps vinny, who was too fucking soft to back up his real
opinion. Before I realised the state of your mind, I tried to be conciliatory, but you've made it clear that you don't care for my opinion - in fact,
you don't care for anyone but yourself. But let me first remind you of vinny's original opinion: "Had this passive aggressive fuck been a man and
approached me with his concerns, perhaps solutions could have been explored and we would not be where we are now." He later repudiated this statement but
in my opinion everyone who read it knew that it was his real opinion, despite his later renunciation of its truth. The fact is, Robert, that you have some
serious issues to deal with - passive-aggressive being the least amongst them. If you had approached vinny with your concerns, then perhaps they could have
been resolved, as he wrote. If you had approached me with your concerns - as opposed to simply accusing me of various offences - then I would have
been more than open to helping you to resolve them. You charge me with being unwilling to help you to deal with your death. You know what mate? I've had
plenty to do with death over the past few weeks, and if you'd mentioned it to me as a friend, then I would have put everything aside to help you.
I'm not the heartless bastard that you make me out to be on that GED page. Tell me that you're dying and that you want to talk about it and I'll be
the first person to jump in there and communicate with you about it. And you know what cuts me the most about that ugly page that you put up about me? That you
make me out to be some uncaring prick who wouldn't help out a mate in distress. That's just fucked, mate. Honestly, I reach out to friends who are in
distress. Fuck you for pretending otherwise. Fuck you for pretending like you wanted to talk to me about something that I didn't want to talk to you about.
I would have talked to you about it if you'd broached it with me. Honestly, mate, I don't recall you broaching the situation with me at all, and if you
did, and if I missed it, then I'm honestly, dreadfully sorry, but it's definitely not something that I intended. I care about my friends. OK? Get that?
I count you as a friend, still. After the abuse that you've layed on me, I count you as a friend still, because I know that you're hurting. OK? I know
that things are hard for you. I know that you don't like the way that I've argued with you on these forums. I'm genuinely sorry that you don't
like it, but I can only be myself. But let me cut to the chase - the real reason that you banned me and that you banned sear (if indeed, as I surmise from your
posts, you did that): that reason is that you can't bear to be wrong. I'm right, aren't I? If anyone challenges you, they're immediately
smeared. If you sense the slightest taste of victory, then you boast uncontrollably about it, don't you? You're addicted to being right, aren't
you? You can't handle the possibility that someone other than you has it over you, can you? And you know what I say to that?: get the fuck over it mate.
You're a heck of a lot older than me, and you've had a heck of a lot longer than me to learn the lesson that everybody's wrong sometimes. Get used
to it mate. If you can't handle the fact that other people are going to disagree with you, let alone that they're going to prove you wrong, then
you're in the wrong universe. I suggest that you look for the universe where Christ didn't even have to be sacrificed, because everybody was already so
right in the first place that his death was unnecessary - that's your world. Stick with it mate. Don't hold back from being right, mate. Of course you
are. Nothing could refute you.
Now of course you're going to see this post as a massive abrogation of your ego. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm trying to challenge you to see the things in yourself that you refuse to see without external guidance. And if you can do the same for me, then all the better. The point is, that you're behaving like a monarch out of control, and someone needs to point it out. Sear tried, but you stifled him, just as you stifled me. Work yourself out mate. You're a very likeable guy, when you're not imposing yourself upon other decent people. That's all that I have to say. Good luck to you, and get back to me if you wish to restore our friendship, please. |
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Majin Dan |
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sear was banned for fucking up this thread, which despite our best efforts seems to be continuing unabated. If the board were going to exist beyond today then
maybe it would seem harsh. But instead, we're only asking that everyone not be gigantic assholes in our goodbye thread. This isn't censorship; I'd
more consider it common decency.
People seem to be making a hell of a lot of assumptions about why Olio is closing. There isn't one cause, which is part of the reason 'find the cause and fix it' isn't practical. One of the issues is that a good number of the admins, myself included, haven't had as much time to put into the board as we would like. While I defy anyone to tell me that internet friendships are not as real and important as real life friendships, the sad truth is that sometimes the events of our lives don't leave much time for the computer. It's perfectly natural, but unfortunate. And so instead of Jens and the Goodyears and rauru and Muthaiga saying goodbye to a board that has meant so much to us, we get people analyzing and criticizing us and our decisions. Sorry if we get fucking upset about that.
Prepare for
disappointment!
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vinny the hack |
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Laird, you are completely wrong about my intentions and feelings. Not only was it completely in jest as I said, if I had any inkling that someone would take it
seriously or worse, to suggest I did and use it against Robert, I wouldn't have posted it at all. I guess I under-estimated you. Or is it over-estimated?
If you are as genuinely friendly with Robert as you claim to be, why belittle him publicly? You could have made your claim and offer privately.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. --Dean Martin
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Majin Dan |
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I won't be able to check the board again today, so I guess this is it.
Goodbye, Olio. Stay groovy.
Prepare for
disappointment!
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Philosophaster |
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I haven't been posting here lately, so I have no idea at all why the board is closing, but I'm sorry to see it go.
All the best to all of you.
History is a graveyard of aristocracies. - Vilfredo Pareto
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Robert Larkin |
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Thanks, B.
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LairdInReply |
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Vinny, you probably have no idea of the things that Robert has said about me privately (unless he's repeated them in the administration forum, which - for
no good reason that I can see - I have been barred from). Please forgive me for being a little bit annoyed about them and for expressing publicly my sincere
opinion in the light of Robert's private denigration of my character, and his (I assume that it was him, although it might equally have been any other of
the admins) banning of me for, again, no good reason that I can see.
In the spirit of this thread though, godspeed to the Olio forum members. I'm sorry that it's turned out this way. I honestly hoped for better times for all of us.
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04/30/08 03:27 PM.
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Robert Larkin |
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We have had occasion to talk, those of us who 'direct' Olio, about what it is, and they have been kind in saying there is no Olio without Robert. I
don't think there is an Olio without Muthaiga, or without Rauru the Gross, or without Fiore Scarlatto, and not really is there one without SonicID,
Tangerine Scream, and her virtual husband Sparrows, and not for a second time today will I forget Ash, and I nearly forgot Tommy mKoNji. We've done this
second run of Olio in various combinations of people and never all together but lately with so few that despite the excellence of Dan and Vinny, it is too
difficult to continue it.
Whether there can be an Olio without Robert, for me there can be no Olio without Jens. Talking and working with Jens is what Olio has always been about and while Robert and Dan and perhaps also Robert and Vinny could replace what is a void in me, that would take time to develop and we ought not call the results Olio. I always thought of Olio as all of ours but there is a specific experience of it for me. I emailed Jens last night and there was a lilt in the prose which matched the lilt in my heart. Whether or not you can see it, that there are 'three of us' makes for more work than if there were more of us and I have to address my physical condition since I do not have the luxury of ignoring it. A third heart attack is out there somewhere, and if I survive it I would need a transplant, so I have decided I do not survive a third heart attack. To be Zen about it, it would be grasping. I have about 20% heart capacity and while the artery opened by a stent after the second heart attack is now closed, it is not worth the medical risk to reopen it or to try other surgical options at this time. Things might change; a plugin heart would be nice, but they are not in the offing any time soon. It was a variety of factors which caused this closing and giving the trolls their due, they did force my hand because the stress of dealing with them was entirely too much. They have shown us their hearts and so that is also their trophy. I recently wrote something to Muthaiga, my dear friend with whom I started Olio, and the sense of it was this: Olio is prettier as an abstraction than as a reality, yet the reality is filled with belly laughs. What other message board is like it? Thank you for joining us. Robert Larkin
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Muthaiga |
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Reports of Olio's death have been premature.
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Robert Larkin |
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Oddest thing, I never lied that much and now I think I'll not lie at all! I feel pretty good! I feel pretty funny! I've been writing wonderfully! I
would like to punch kids generally! I would like to beat the fucking shit out of anyone who believes there's any point at all in voting in the November
Presidential election even if it's to try to hold the line for a recount! Why would you give a ... never mind, can't be abusive anymore so we can get
the best choice in November and pretend you're not a moron.
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